Q4: What would people be surprised to know about your career path, or what
it’s like to work for a combat support agency/the U.S. intelligence community?
When I speak to students, I like to highlight the fictional intelligence career of author Tom
Clancy’s character “Jack Ryan.” In Clancy’s books, Jack Ryan was part of an
operation to steal a Soviet submarine, almost killed by and fought against terrorists, conducted
interrogations, briefed senior-level officials, supported operations as an analyst, dabbled in
counterintelligence, taught at the Naval Academy, was a professional historian and married a doctor.
It’s the stuff of Hollywood, and no surprise that several movies were produced starring such a
character!
Well, I’ve never rappelled down a rope from a helicopter firing a submachine gun, been on a
speedboat to land near a nuclear weapons facility to interrogate nuclear scientists, and I will never be
the President of the United States. But it’s remarkable all the things IC employees can do in
their careers that capture the flavor of Jack Ryan and Hollywood. Among my many experiences: I’ve
been a Joint Staff J2 and President’s Daily Briefing briefer, supported operations as an analyst,
gone to the Naval War College and currently teach graduate studies, and am a professional historian who
married a doctor. That makes for a fascinating career.
Q5: How do you really know you’re making a difference?
At DIA, there’s little ambiguity about making a difference. For example, I was working in the
Pentagon when the 9/11 attacks occurred, and the plane that hit the building caused damage to my office.
I came to DIA to help make sure that such an attack would not happen again. In the following decade of
my counterterrorism work, I was able to collaborate across the intelligence community and play roles in
helping the community to thwart several attacks. It’s impossible to know how many lives were saved
during those efforts, but I went home every evening knowing I made a difference. To this day, with
activities large or small, I feel the very same way.